Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124

03/09/2020 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 235 AK WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD:ALLOCATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 235(L&C) Out of Committee
*+ HB 301 ELECTRICIAN & PLUMBER APPRENTICESHIPS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ SB 52 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL; ALCOHOL REG TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 93 MILITARY SPOUSE COURTESY LICENSE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 93(L&C) Out of Committee
          HB 301-ELECTRICIAN & PLUMBER APPRENTICESHIPS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:51:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  301,  "An Act  relating  to certificates  of                                                               
fitness for plumbers and electricians."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS), labeled  31-LS1506\E,  Fisher,  3/6/20, as  the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GABRIELLE LEDOUX,  Alaska  State Legislature,  as                                                               
prime  sponsor, provided  a brief  explanation  of HB  301.   She                                                               
stated that  Alaska has a great  apprenticeship program; however,                                                               
there are  regulations that have  been proposed that  would  gut                                                                
it.   Essentially,  she said,  HB  301 would  codify the  current                                                               
regulations  regarding   apprenticeship  programs  so   that  the                                                               
changes  promulgated  by the  administration  would  not go  into                                                               
effect.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:53:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  reported  that   they  heard  375  public                                                               
comments in opposition  to the proposed regulations  and in favor                                                               
of  the status  quo.   He  said the  proposed  CS maintains  that                                                               
status quo to provide certainty for the industry.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  removed her objection.   There being  no further                                                               
objection, Version E was adopted as the working document.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH   KELLY,   Director,  National   Electrical   Contractors                                                               
Association  & International  Brotherhood  of Electrical  Workers                                                               
Apprenticeship  Program,  stated that  she  is  in favor  of  the                                                               
committee substitute  (CS) for HB 301.   She said there  are only                                                               
two  building trades  in Alaska  that require  licenses: plumbers                                                               
and electrical workers.  She added  that there is good reason for                                                               
licensing  these trades.    The work  performed  by plumbers  and                                                               
electrical  workers  is  complex   and  must  be  done  properly;                                                               
however,  once its   completed, its   often hidden  behind walls,                                                               
floors,  and  ceilings.   Consequently,  the  state  has  several                                                               
overlapping inspections  to ensure  that plumbing  and electrical                                                               
installations  are safe  for  the  public: administers  licenses,                                                               
state conducted inspections, and  certificates of fitness.  These                                                               
licenses ensure that workers know  what theyre  doing before they                                                               
work  alone.    She  explained   that  this  is  accomplished  by                                                               
requiring that trainees  are in an apprenticeship    the industry                                                               
standard for  building competency.  She  said each apprenticeship                                                               
may be  somewhat different,  but they all  follow the  same basic                                                               
standards and expectations for training  and experience to create                                                               
a qualified person.   She explained that the  Department of Labor                                                               
&  Workforce  Development  (DLWD) recently  proposed  regulations                                                               
that  would remove  this apprenticeship  requirement, effectively                                                               
stripping away  all training  and relevant  experience requisites                                                               
for these  trades.   She offered  her belief  that it  would have                                                               
created   economic   advantages    for   businesses   not   using                                                               
apprenticeships  and  allowed  employers  to  hire  out-of-state,                                                               
seasonal,  low  wage  labor  instead  of  investing  in  Alaskas                                                                
workforce.  She  noted that stakeholders were  not consulted, and                                                               
the proposal  included several provisions  that showed a  lack of                                                               
understanding of the  realities in the field.  HB  301, she said,                                                               
will prevent  the department from  turning trainee  licenses into                                                               
nothing  more than  a  ransom paid  to work  in  the plumbing  or                                                               
electrical  trade.     This  bill  will  help   ensure  that  the                                                               
department respects the statutory intent  for public safety.  She                                                               
urged the passage of CSHB 301.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:59:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE MCALLEN,  CEO, The Superior Group  Inc.; National Electrical                                                               
Contractors  Association, expressed  his  hope  to offer  insight                                                               
from a contractor's perspective.   He informed the committee that                                                               
he is the  chief operations officer for The  Superior Group Inc.,                                                               
which is an employee-owned,  Alaska-based contractor that employs                                                               
both electrical workers,  plumbers, and pipefitters.   HB 301, he                                                               
said, will  have a  direct impact  on their  business operations.                                                               
He  stated that  he  is also  the vice  president  of the  Alaska                                                               
chapter  of  the   National  Electrical  Contractors  Association                                                               
(NECA).   He  said  that  as an  employer  utilizing a  workforce                                                               
heavily   comprised    of   skilled    tradespeople,   registered                                                               
apprenticeship is  an important  tool in  hiring and  vetting the                                                               
workforce.    A  standardized  means  of  identifying  experience                                                               
levels  and verifiable  skillsets is  critical in  developing and                                                               
qualifying his crews.  He said  that his tradespeople can work in                                                               
high-risk environments and  it is imperative that  the product is                                                               
completed in a safe and code-compliant  manner.  He said that his                                                               
business   appreciates   and    leans   heavily   on   registered                                                               
apprenticeship   and  the   associated  licensing   requirements.                                                               
Without  it,  it  would  be  difficult  to  effectively  evaluate                                                               
employees and ensure that theyre   being placed in an appropriate                                                               
role.   It  is  important for  both the  personal  safety of  the                                                               
employee and  for the general  public that inhabits  the property                                                               
on  which  they  worked.   Furthermore,  in  todays   competitive                                                               
market, the  lower scale  apprentice is  a factor  in determining                                                               
competitive  bids  and there  is  an  expectation that  they  are                                                               
working on the installation, not  simply observing the journeyman                                                               
doing the  install.  Consequently,  he said  that he sees  a very                                                               
real need for that individual to be  licensed to do the work.  He                                                               
stated  that  apprenticeship and  licensing  work  well in  their                                                               
current form.   Furthermore, he surmised that it is  the best and                                                               
most cost-effective  means of developing  a local workforce.   To                                                               
conclude, he  stated his support for  HB 301 and for  codifying a                                                               
system that is currently working.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced that HB 301 was held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 235 Work Draft ver. M 03.06.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 TVEP Rate Increase and New Allocation Structure 03.08.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Work Draft ver. M Explanation of Changes 03.08.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Supporting Document- ATC Letter 02.28.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 ASMI Letter of Support 03.06.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Supporting Document- Illisagvik Letter 02.26.2020.pdf HFIN 3/16/2020 1:30:00 PM
HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235.Backup Flow Chart 2.21.2020.pdf HL&C 2/21/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Sponsor Statement 2.21.2020.pdf HL&C 2/21/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 301 Work Draft ver E 03.06.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 AJEATT letter re proposed regulatory changes 1.13.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Supporting Document ASAC Regulatory Response 1.12.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
SL&C 3/26/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Fiscal Note DOLWD WD 03.06.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Fiscal Note DOLWD MI 03.06.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Pipe Trades letter of support 03.06.2020.PDF HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
SB 52 Summary of Goals.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
SFIN 2/11/2020 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 4/22/2019 6:00:00 PM
SL&C 3/26/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 52
SB 52 Sponsor Statement v. E.A 03.02.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/18/2020 3:15:00 PM
SB 52
SB 52 Sectional Analysis v. E.A 03.02.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/18/2020 3:15:00 PM
SB 52
SB 52 Letters of Support with cover sheet.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
SB 52
HB 235 Support Letter for Dedicated TVEP Funding to Seafood Industry- NPSI 3.7.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Support Letter for Dedicated TVEP Funding to Seafood Industry-ARC 3.7.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Additional Document-About Kodiak Seafood and Marine Science Center 3.7.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Additional Document-ARC Processor Survey 3.7.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Additional Document-Kodiak Seafood and Marine Science Center Annual Report FY19 3.7.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 Support Letter for Dedicated TVEP Funding to Seafood Indsutry- PSPA 3.7.20.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
HB 235 UA Support Letter 02.28.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HB 235
SB 52 Title IV presentation 03.09.2020.pdf HL&C 3/9/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/11/2020 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/18/2020 3:15:00 PM
SB 52